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2015–2016 Campaign: Trump Advocates Waterboarding 'and Much Worse' and Killing Terrorists' Families

During the 2016 primary campaign Trump promised to restore waterboarding and harsher methods, and said the US should kill terrorists' families. Both would violate the Geneva Conventions and the Convention against Torture. As a candidate's statements, they are recorded here as evidence of stated intent, not as conduct.

Record summary

Grade

Grade 1 of 5: Significant Democratic Concern

International crime

No international crime alleged

Actions that weaken democratic institutions, suppress political participation, or restrict fundamental freedoms without reaching the threshold of a rights violation attributable to a specific victim class. Scale and definitions

Status
Concluded
Incident date
Record updated
Location
United States (campaign statements)
Legal posture
Documented
ICC relevance
No
Sources
4 cited
Stable ID
campaign-advocacy-torture-and-killing-terrorists-families-2015
Legal basis
Geneva Conventions Common Article 3; Additional Protocol I Article 51(2) (customary law); Convention against Torture Articles 1, 2 and 16; Rome Statute Article 8(2)(c)(i) and 8(2)(e)(i) (murder and attacks on civilians in non-international armed conflict) as the crimes the proposals describe
Posture note
Documented public statements by a candidate. No act or order followed during the campaign. The statements are recorded as evidence of stated intent for later entries on conduct in office.
Victims
No victims. These were statements by a candidate, not acts. The groups they placed at risk were detainees in US custody and family members of suspected terrorists who take no part in hostilities.
Alleged responsible parties
  • Donald Trump, Candidate for the Republican presidential nomination— Trump 2016 campaign

Key points

  • ABC 'This Week', November 22, 2015: 'I think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they do to us … I would absolutely bring back interrogation and strong interrogation' (ABC News).
  • Fox & Friends, December 2, 2015: 'you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families … When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families' (PolitiFact; CNN).
  • Pressed by Bill O'Reilly the next day, Trump repeatedly declined to say whether he meant killing the families (CNN). At the CNN debate in Las Vegas that month he said 'I would be very, very firm with families' (PolitiFact).
  • PolitiFact rated True Sen. Rand Paul's statement that killing terrorists' families would require pulling out of the Geneva Conventions. Professor Richard D. Rosen of Texas Tech called such a policy 'a gross violation of the law of war and a war crime.'
  • In February 2016 Trump said 'torture works' and 'we should go much stronger than waterboarding.' Former CIA director Michael Hayden replied: 'if you want somebody waterboarded, bring your own damn bucket' (NBC News).
  • Congress had already enshrined President Obama's ban on the CIA's enhanced techniques in law in 2015 (NBC News).

What happened

On ABC's "This Week" on November 22, 2015, Trump, then a candidate for the Republican nomination, said he would "absolutely" bring back waterboarding: "I think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they do to us. What they're doing to us, what they did to James Foley when they chopped off his head, that's a whole different level and I would absolutely bring back interrogation and strong interrogation." ABC noted that the United Nations has defined waterboarding as torture.

On Fox & Friends on December 2, 2015, he went further: "The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families." The next day Bill O'Reilly asked him repeatedly whether that meant killing them, and he did not answer directly (CNN). At the CNN debate in Las Vegas later that month, a student's question put to him that the proposal "violates the principle of distinction between civilians and combatants in international law." Trump replied that he "would be very, very firm with families" (PolitiFact).

In February 2016 he said he was convinced "torture works" and that "we should go much stronger than waterboarding." Former CIA director Michael Hayden said: "if you want somebody waterboarded, bring your own damn bucket." Current and former CIA officials told NBC News the agency would refuse such orders. Congress had written President Obama's ban on the techniques into law the year before.

What the proposals describe. PolitiFact asked experts in international law, who agreed that deliberately killing the non-combatant family members of terrorists would violate Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, which binds the United States in its conflicts with non-state groups (the Supreme Court so held in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, 2006, as PolitiFact notes). It would also violate the customary prohibition on making civilians the object of attack reflected in Additional Protocol I, Article 51(2). Professor Richard D. Rosen called it "a gross violation of the law of war and a war crime." Professor David P. Fidler described it as a proposal "to use acts of violence to spread terror among civilians." Waterboarding and harsher methods would violate the Convention against Torture, to which the United States is a party and which admits no exceptions.

Rome Statute. The proposals describe acts that would be war crimes under Article 8(2)(c)(i) (murder of persons taking no active part in hostilities) and 8(2)(e)(i) (intentionally directing attacks against civilians). But a war crime requires an act, committed in the context of an armed conflict. In 2015 Trump held no office and commanded no forces. Public advocacy by a private person is not an Art. 8 crime, and the Rome Statute criminalises direct and public incitement only for genocide (Art. 25(3)(e)). The crime type is none.

Strongest defence argument. These were campaign statements, often hyperbolic. Trump never specified that "take out" meant killing, and nothing was done. The defence succeeds on the legal question: no crime was committed by saying these things. It does not alter what the statements were. Trump made them repeatedly, kept them after experts and rivals told him they described war crimes, and as a candidate for commander-in-chief.

Why this grade

Significant. Rhetoric is not an act, and this entry records rhetoric only. The significant grade covers rhetoric that normalises political violence without a rights violation against a specific victim. These are statements, not conduct, made before Trump held any power. The archive records them because they are documented, repeated statements of intent by the person who later commanded US forces. Entries on later conduct can cite them: see the Yakla raid of the first term and the 2026 "no quarter" statements. No international crime is in play at the Art. 53(1) level for these statements, so the entry carries no warCrimeClassification.

International law engaged

InstrumentProvisionWhat it protects or prohibits
Geneva Conventions of 1949Common Article 3Persons taking no active part in hostilities shall be treated humanely; violence to life and person, murder, cruel treatment and torture are prohibited at any time and in any place
Protocol I Additional to the Geneva ConventionsArticle 51(2)The civilian population and individual civilians shall not be the object of attack. The United States is not a party, but experts cited by PolitiFact note that it recognises much of the Protocol as customary law.
Convention against TortureArticles 1, 2 and 16Absolute prohibition of torture and of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment; no exceptional circumstances may be invoked as a justification (the United States is a party)

Sequence of events

  1. 'Waterboarding is peanuts'

    On ABC's 'This Week', Trump says he would 'absolutely' bring back waterboarding as a form of 'strong interrogation'.

  2. 'You have to take out their families'

    On Fox & Friends, Trump says that when the US gets terrorists it must 'take out their families'.

  3. Trump declines to clarify

    Interviewed by Bill O'Reilly, Trump repeatedly dodges whether he would order the killing of suspected terrorists' families, saying 'we have to be much tougher than we are' (CNN).

  4. PolitiFact: the Geneva Conventions bar it

    After the CNN debate in Las Vegas, where Trump said he would be 'very, very firm with families' and Sen. Rand Paul said the policy would require leaving the Geneva Conventions, PolitiFact rates Paul's statement True on the advice of international-law experts.

  5. 'Torture works'

    Trump says he is convinced 'torture works' and that the US should go 'much stronger than waterboarding'. Former CIA director Hayden and current and former CIA officials tell NBC News the agency would refuse such orders.

Sources

  1. Donald Trump Says He Would Bring Back Waterboarding — ABC News
  2. Geneva Conventions bar Donald Trump's idea of killing terrorists' families, as Rand Paul says — PolitiFact
  3. Donald Trump dodges specifics on killing terrorist families — CNN
  4. Trump Needs His 'Own Damn Bucket' to Waterboard: Ex-CIA Chief — NBC News

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